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Saturday, March 07, 2009

Rob Feinstein: Five Years Later

"...and according to his chat log, he thought he was meeting a 14 year old boy."

Those words, spoken by NBC10 news reporter Harry Hairston during the March 3, 2004 broadcast of the 11 o'clock news, sent a shock-wave through the wrestling world. Caught on tape arriving to and fleeing from a bust house that he allegedly believed was the residence of a 14 year old boy named Brandon, Rob Feinstein's life would forever be changed on that March day.

The story of Rob Feinstein is a bizarre, often contradictory one. The video company which he created, RF Video, was founded on flagrant and serial copyright infringement of video footage from around the World, yet Feinstein has always been obsessed with protecting his own footage and product. The very people he has had the greatest contempt for, internet wrestling fans and message board posters, are the same people who he has marketed all of his products to. Even the bust brought about another contradiction: Feinstein had long bragged about women he'd had sexual relations with, yet there he was on the doorstep of a house he thought belonged to a young boy. Simply put, there has always been something off about Rob Feinstein. The only consistent thing about Feinstein has always been that his successes always come with mistakes and failures. It was only a matter of time before his biggest success, the formation of Ring of Honor, was eclipsed by failure.

The birth of Ring of Honor by Feinstein and his colleagues became a necessity when Extreme Championship Wrestling (ECW) ceased operations, which was a large blow to RF Video. The company relied on a deal with ECW that allowed them to not only tape most of their live events, but it also allowed them to sell their product to the hundreds, if not thousands, of fans that would be in attendance at those events on any given weekend. Attempts were made to substitute ECW with a variety of independent groups, with upstart promotion Combat Zone Wrestling (CZW) being the most successful. The relationship with CZW saw RF Video book and pay, out of their own pocket, several ex-ECW wrestlers in an effort to appeal to the customers they were losing as a result of ECW closing. During this same period CZW had made a deal with small video company Smart Mark Video (SMV) to tape and distribute their live events. As both video companies each taped and sold their own versions of CZW events, attempts were made by RF Video to buy into the company. CZW owner John Zandig wasn't interested, likely because the SMV deal was more beneficial. While RF Video would pay a flat fee to tape and sell an event, SMV would set up profit sharing deals with organizations allowing for more financial gains. Most organizations simply didn't trust Feinstein enough to do similar deals with him.

The relationship with CZW quickly fizzled and Feinstein's company was in the same position it was in before. Looking at what worked and what didn't, inspiration came from two different sources: First was the critical praise that tournaments like the "Super 8" and the "King of the Indies" were receiving. These tournaments took some of the best wrestlers from around the country and matched them together in matches that were unique and exciting. Tapes of the events though weren't widely distributed, which meant they weren't seen by many fans outside of those that were in attendance. RF Video could change that. The second inspiration came from a few key members from the roster of Jersey All Pro Wrestling, an organization based in North Jersey that RF Video taped. Once a blood and guts company, Jersey All Pro Wrestling's hardcore style had become targeted by the state of New Jersey and was banned. Forced to change their product they began emphasizing hard hitting and high flying wrestlers like Low-Ki, Homicide, and Da Hit Squad (Mafia and Monsta Mack), all of whom would become centerpieces in the early days of RF Video's venture into promoting wrestling events. The merging of the two ideas led to Ring of Honor, which held their first event on February 23, 2002, in Philadelphia, PA.

Ring of Honor was, at the time of the bust, a critical success but not a financial one. Feinstein's stature in wrestling though had improved and grown from the low point of the '90s where his antics on internet message boards and the overall quality of his product had turned much of the wrestling community against him. On the day he walked up the steps leading to the bust house he was the owner of arguably the second or third largest wrestling organization in the United States and with the help of financial backer Cary Silken, things could only go up from there. Things were going good for him but that would all change the moment a door opened and he found himself on the other side of the camera lens.

The reaction was swift. Fans and wrestling personalities began to distance themselves from Feinstein. Within a day Feinstein had announced he was leaving Ring of Honor and RF Video, though suspicions that he remained involved were high despite the insistence of those involved with the companies. Feinstein himself was telling people that he was still owner, that he was just laying low and that they were just waiting for things to blow over, which just added to the confusion. The general feeling among the wrestlers was that he was still involved, but they weren't sure. Confirmation that he was still involved came in June when Ring of Honor finally severed its ties with Feinstein and RF Video after he was bought out of his Ring of Honor ownership. RF Video would remain his, though by this time the company had little value without the Ring of Honor library and with all the negative attention it had received.

Today Feinstein relies on shoot interviews and the rights he retains to the ECW library as his primary means of making a profit. RF Videos financial situation is unknown, though Feinstein claims that it's doing better than ever, a questionable claim considering the rise in piracy of his products and the negative image he has in the wrestling community, not to mention his history of dishonesty. The company operates with a barebones staff, a far cry from the Ring of Honor days, and signs of cost cutting can be seen in releases where events are taped with two cameras but only one camera operator, among other things. Web traffic has dropped 38.9% in the last year alone, according to web traffic analyst www.compete.com. Most independent groups have opted to go with companies like Smart Mark Video, which both produces and distributes events, or have decided to self release, which has also been a blow to RF Video business. Even one of Feinstein's biggest supporters has gone this route when deciding on how he was going to release his all women shows.

Feinstein has attempted to get involved in running wrestling events again, though each venture to date has failed. His image among those in wrestling is generally negative, though he has found no shortage of people willing to work for him if the money is right. There is also a significant number of people who either believe he was set up or simply don't care. His first attempt at getting back involved in running shows was with Pro Wrestling Unplugged (PWU). PWU and RF Video released a joint statement on June 28, 2005, stating that RF Video was now a partial owner of PWU, however just hours later PWU would back track and announce that they weren't. The relationship quickly fizzled, and Feinstein was soon involved in another organization, Pro Wrestling Elite. The first event Feinstein was involved with had to switch venues on the day of the show when the original building the event was to be held in was bombarded by calls and faxes about Feinstein's involvement. The show though did take place, in front of a couple dozen people, and was, as expected, a failure. Pro Wrestling Elite would go on to run two more shows before its demise. Feinstein would yet again get another chance to become involved in a promotion when Velocity Pro Wrestling brought him in as booker in the fall of 2008. His involvement wouldn't even last a show as the two sides parted ways before what was supposed to be his first event.

For five years Feinstein has alternated between claiming innocence and pretending like the NBC10 incident never happened. Defenders say that he was never charged with anything stemming from the incident. They are right, he hasn't. He also hasn't followed through with the legal action he said he'd be taking against NBC10 and Perverted-Justice, the same legal action he used as an excuse for not answering certain questions about the incident. Personally, if I was wrongly accused of trying to solicit sex from a minor on an NBC affiliate in the fourth largest television market in the country, I'd do everything I could possibly do to clear my name. To date the only interviews he's given about the issue were to a site in which he is a heavy advertiser on. Is this irrefutable evidence that he is guilty? No, but are we to ignore the video, the chat transcript or the fact that the Perverted-Justice group that assisted in the Feinstein bust has helped convict 318 child predators since June 2004? Rob Feinstein will not be convicted for his actions in a court of law, but  what about the court of public opinion? You be the judge on that one.

What follows are the chat logs posted by Perverted-Justice. Comments made by the staff of Perverted-Justice have been removed in order to present the chats in a fair context.

CHAT ONE - Day One

RFWrestling [10:05 PM]: hey whats up
RFWrestling [10:05 PM]: your hot
PardayyBrand [10:05 PM]: tnx u got pix?
RFWrestling [10:05 PM]: im from langhorne
RFWrestling [10:05 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [10:06 PM]: here i got a bunc
RFWrestling [10:06 PM]: http://www.rohwrestling.com/Image2.jpg
PardayyBrand [10:06 PM]: u a wresler?
RFWrestling [10:06 PM]: yeppers
PardayyBrand [10:06 PM]: kewl kewl
RFWrestling [10:07 PM]: u got mail
PardayyBrand [10:07 PM]: u got a pic that i can c u better?
PardayyBrand [10:07 PM]: OMG ur hot
PardayyBrand [10:08 PM]: ?
RFWrestling [10:09 PM]: im sending u 4 more
RFWrestling [10:09 PM]: do u have any more pics
PardayyBrand [10:09 PM]: no what i got is in my pictures
PardayyBrand [10:09 PM]: i dont got my own cam
RFWrestling [10:10 PM]: cool cool
RFWrestling [10:10 PM]: where are u from
PardayyBrand [10:10 PM]: i am just here for winter break
RFWrestling [10:10 PM]: oh cool where u from
PardayyBrand [10:10 PM]: u know where chicago is?
RFWrestling [10:10 PM]: lol im going there in april for a show
RFWrestling [10:11 PM]: yea i have been there before also
PardayyBrand [10:11 PM]: k like near there in barrington
RFWrestling [10:11 PM]: nah
RFWrestling [10:11 PM]: u got mai;
PardayyBrand [10:11 PM]: but my dad lives here
RFWrestling [10:11 PM]: u got mail
PardayyBrand [10:11 PM]: wow ur hot
RFWrestling [10:11 PM]: thanks
PardayyBrand [10:12 PM]: u no where newton square is here?
RFWrestling [10:12 PM]: how long are u here for
RFWrestling [10:12 PM]: hmm
RFWrestling [10:12 PM]: it sounds familiar
RFWrestling [10:12 PM]: is it in bucks county
RFWrestling [10:12 PM]: im in langhorne
PardayyBrand [10:12 PM]: i go home friday
RFWrestling [10:12 PM]: kk
RFWrestling [10:13 PM]: where is that near
RFWrestling [10:13 PM]: where u are now
PardayyBrand [10:13 PM]: at my dads
RFWrestling [10:13 PM]: hmm your not on my buddy list im trying to add u
RFWrestling [10:14 PM]: your so hot also
PardayyBrand [10:14 PM]: *****************( mapquest link to the bust house )
PardayyBrand [10:15 PM]: it just sucks here
RFWrestling [10:15 PM]: why
RFWrestling [10:15 PM]: do u got a car
RFWrestling [10:16 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [10:16 PM]: i dont know no one and my dad let my sister bring a friend
RFWrestling [10:16 PM]: :-[
PardayyBrand [10:16 PM]: no i dont get my license for 2 more years
RFWrestling [10:16 PM]: k
PardayyBrand [10:16 PM]: my sister does
RFWrestling [10:17 PM]: OMG your so cute
PardayyBrand [10:17 PM]: yea but i never get a boyfriend
RFWrestling [10:17 PM]: why
PardayyBrand [10:17 PM]: its hard
PardayyBrand [10:17 PM]: and i dont want no one 2 know
RFWrestling [10:17 PM]: well your like me
RFWrestling [10:17 PM]: im super str8 acting
RFWrestling [10:17 PM]: and dont like gay gay guys
RFWrestling [10:18 PM]: i lke str8 acting guys
PardayyBrand [10:18 PM]: me 2
RFWrestling [10:18 PM]: :-D
PardayyBrand [10:18 PM]: but ur old and can go meet people
RFWrestling [10:18 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [10:18 PM]: not that old
PardayyBrand [10:18 PM]: how old ru?
RFWrestling [10:18 PM]: 23
PardayyBrand [10:19 PM]: yea but thats older then me and u can drive and drink im 14 and no one ever wants to see me cuz they say im jailbait but i cann't meet guys my age cuz the might tell guys at school
RFWrestling [10:19 PM]: damm 14
PardayyBrand [10:19 PM]: see
RFWrestling [10:19 PM]: lol ill pretend u said 18
PardayyBrand [10:20 PM]: i look 18 i can buy smokes
RFWrestling [10:20 PM]: your so adorable
RFWrestling [10:21 PM]: dam your a little like 40 minutes from me
RFWrestling [10:21 PM]: or we coudl chill
PardayyBrand [10:21 PM]: then my dad went to texas 2 nite til tuesday and my sister dropped him off so now im like stuck here and they gave me 20 bucks not to tell but they said they are taking the car to new york tommrrow so then i got nothing to do
RFWrestling [10:21 PM]: :-(
RFWrestling [10:21 PM]: lol have them drop u to meet me on the way
RFWrestling [10:21 PM]: how old is your sister
PardayyBrand [10:22 PM]: 17 shes a senior
RFWrestling [10:22 PM]: kk
RFWrestling [10:22 PM]: well it sucks
RFWrestling [10:22 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [10:22 PM]: is new york a long drive?
RFWrestling [10:22 PM]: maybe 90 minutes
PardayyBrand [10:23 PM]: i bet the get fucked going there
PardayyBrand [10:23 PM]: like not sex fucked but fuck somethign up
RFWrestling [10:23 PM]: i knew what u meant
PardayyBrand [10:23 PM]: then i'll bust ha ha
RFWrestling [10:23 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [10:23 PM]: your so my type in the looks deparrment
PardayyBrand [10:24 PM]: u gotta boyfriend?
RFWrestling [10:24 PM]: just broke up after 2 yuears in dec
PardayyBrand [10:24 PM]: i never had 1
RFWrestling [10:25 PM]: :-(
RFWrestling [10:25 PM]: well i would chill but your so far
RFWrestling [10:26 PM]: 45 minutes
RFWrestling [10:26 PM]: from me
RFWrestling [10:26 PM]: lol take a train here
RFWrestling [10:26 PM]: ha
PardayyBrand [10:26 PM]: i dont know how here
PardayyBrand [10:26 PM]: i can at home
RFWrestling [10:26 PM]: damm
RFWrestling [10:26 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [10:26 PM]: u do lots of guys?
RFWrestling [10:26 PM]: noo
RFWrestling [10:26 PM]: i had a bf for 2 years
PardayyBrand [10:27 PM]: i wish i did
RFWrestling [10:27 PM]: ill be in chicago ridge
RFWrestling [10:27 PM]: april 24th
RFWrestling [10:27 PM]: frontier fieldhouse
PardayyBrand [10:27 PM]: i can get any place in chicago but not allwoed downtown
RFWrestling [10:28 PM]: cool
RFWrestling [10:28 PM]: is that down town
PardayyBrand [10:28 PM]: no
PardayyBrand [10:28 PM]: u gotta job?
RFWrestling [10:28 PM]: wrestling is my job
PardayyBrand [10:28 PM]: like u get paid for it?
RFWrestling [10:28 PM]: yea
PardayyBrand [10:29 PM]: daymm
PardayyBrand [10:29 PM]: thats way kewl
PardayyBrand [10:29 PM]: u shave your hair on you?
RFWrestling [10:29 PM]: yea lol
RFWrestling [10:29 PM]: all the time
RFWrestling [10:29 PM]: i love being smooth
RFWrestling [10:29 PM]: and u
PardayyBrand [10:30 PM]: no i dont got hair
PardayyBrand [10:30 PM]: i mean i do where is should but not like my chest
RFWrestling [10:31 PM]: lol ill come get u
PardayyBrand [10:31 PM]: huh?
RFWrestling [10:31 PM]: i would pick u up
PardayyBrand [10:31 PM]: not now my sister is here and she would think shit
RFWrestling [10:31 PM]: klk
PardayyBrand [10:32 PM]: u got more pix?
RFWrestling [10:32 PM]: hmm
PardayyBrand [10:33 PM]: ur so hot
RFWrestling [10:33 PM]: thanks
PardayyBrand [10:34 PM]: u dont got x ones
RFWrestling [10:34 PM]: lol no
PardayyBrand [10:34 PM]: i want some but dont got a cam
RFWrestling [10:34 PM]: what are u into
PardayyBrand [10:34 PM]: i wanted a cam for christmas but didnt get it
RFWrestling [10:35 PM]: got mail;
PardayyBrand [10:35 PM]: do you kiss or dont do that
RFWrestling [10:35 PM]: i deff do
PardayyBrand [10:36 PM]: lots of guys i talk to on here say they dont
PardayyBrand [10:37 PM]: k guess ur busy
RFWrestling [10:37 PM]: NOOO
RFWrestling [10:37 PM]: i was sending u a pic
RFWrestling [10:37 PM]: and when it downloads it locks me and i cant type
RFWrestling [10:37 PM]: i am only talking to u
RFWrestling [10:38 PM]: what are u into
PardayyBrand [10:38 PM]: I luv boarding and am gttin really good
RFWrestling [10:39 PM]: cool nice
PardayyBrand [10:39 PM]: theres just not lots of places around me at home to do it and when we come here we dont go anywhere
PardayyBrand [10:39 PM]: my dad is not rich like my moms new husband
RFWrestling [10:40 PM]: that kinda sucks
PardayyBrand [10:40 PM]: do peeps no ur gay
RFWrestling [10:41 PM]: a few friends that i sit]
RFWrestling [10:41 PM]: is it
RFWrestling [10:41 PM]: what about u
PardayyBrand [10:41 PM]: fuck no
RFWrestling [10:41 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [10:41 PM]: i dont want no one 2
RFWrestling [10:41 PM]: cool
RFWrestling [10:41 PM]: its all good
PardayyBrand [10:42 PM]: did you like live with your boyfriend
RFWrestling [10:42 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [10:42 PM]: he lived here for 2 years
RFWrestling [10:42 PM]: sucks he is gone miss him to death
RFWrestling [10:42 PM]: we got into a fight over something stupid
PardayyBrand [10:42 PM]: so like you guys stayed in teh same bed all the time
RFWrestling [10:42 PM]: he never worked ever
RFWrestling [10:42 PM]: no next to mine
RFWrestling [10:42 PM]: only a few times
RFWrestling [10:42 PM]: he was a odd one
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: super closet case
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: LONG STORY
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: he said he could not be gay with me
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: anymore
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: plus i wanted him to get a jon
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: job
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: i spent like 10,000 on him
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: in 2 years
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: easy
PardayyBrand [10:43 PM]: how did he get money if he didnt have a job
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: i took him to fl to Disney world for a week
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: ME
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: i paid
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: i was in love with him he used me
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: huge
PardayyBrand [10:43 PM]: i mean i dont have to work beucase i cant and got school
RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: as soon as i told him he needed to get a job
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: he got intoa fight with me over something stupd and said he wanted to move back home
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: hes young also
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: just turned 20
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: was 18 when we met
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: yea well he dropped out
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [10:44 PM]: he didnt go to college
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: he looks like aaron carter
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: no hes stupid lol
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: we have not talked in 2 months
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: for real
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: we lived togeth for like 2 years
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: talked EVERYDAY
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: hing 24-7 and poof all gone
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: i cired for like a month stragight
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: straight
PardayyBrand [10:45 PM]: i hve to get above like a 3.5 so i can go to norhtwestern
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: he was like my best friend
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: nice
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: i like the pic of u in the red shirt
PardayyBrand [10:45 PM]: thats our basement
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: cool
PardayyBrand [10:45 PM]: thats were we hang
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: damm wish u lived closer
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: or at least not in IL
PardayyBrand [10:46 PM]: why ?
RFWrestling [10:46 PM]: duh lol
RFWrestling [10:46 PM]: your hot also
PardayyBrand [10:46 PM]: u want to be like boyfriends?
RFWrestling [10:46 PM]: lolol i got to get to know u
RFWrestling [10:46 PM]: plus your 14 lol
RFWrestling [10:46 PM]: i would be a great friend
RFWrestling [10:46 PM]: maybe more
RFWrestling [10:46 PM]: who k nows
PardayyBrand [10:47 PM]: yea i hear that lots
RFWrestling [10:47 PM]: can u talk on the phne
RFWrestling [10:47 PM]: at all if i called u
PardayyBrand [10:47 PM]: i mean if you liked me i could like say i want live with my dad
RFWrestling [10:47 PM]: dont worry i dont sound gay
RFWrestling [10:47 PM]: that would rule
PardayyBrand [10:47 PM]: i dont want to talk on the phone cuz my sister is here and this place is so small
RFWrestling [10:47 PM]: kk
RFWrestling [10:47 PM]: its ok
RFWrestling [10:48 PM]: well maybe another day
PardayyBrand [10:48 PM]: do u like work everyday
RFWrestling [10:48 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [10:48 PM]: 9 to 5
RFWrestling [10:48 PM]: work at the wrestling office
RFWrestling [10:48 PM]: you look like my friend alot
RFWrestling [10:48 PM]: i like your hair also
RFWrestling [10:48 PM]: hooot
RFWrestling [10:48 PM]: what have u done before
PardayyBrand [10:49 PM]: u mean sex?
RFWrestling [10:49 PM]: ha
PardayyBrand [10:49 PM]: i only met 1 guy i did stuff with
RFWrestling [10:49 PM]: how old was he
PardayyBrand [10:50 PM]: he said 25 but looked lots older
RFWrestling [10:50 PM]: if u dont mind what did u do
RFWrestling [10:50 PM]: why did u stop talking
PardayyBrand [10:51 PM]: didn’t
PardayyBrand [10:51 PM]: srry was lookin at ur pix
RFWrestling [10:51 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [10:51 PM]: im lookig at yours also
PardayyBrand [10:52 PM]: do u know The Rock
RFWrestling [10:52 PM]: here ill show u stuff yea
RFWrestling [10:52 PM]: i met them all
PardayyBrand [10:52 PM]: so u like WWE
PardayyBrand [10:52 PM]: oh and that guy was freak he just sucked me then made me get out of his car
RFWrestling [10:53 PM]: that is messed up
PardayyBrand [10:53 PM]: we didnt even kiss
RFWrestling [10:53 PM]: RF Video - Your one stop for wrestling merchandise and information! (link no longer active)
RFWrestling [10:53 PM]: me and eddy guerreo
RFWrestling [10:53 PM]: RF Video - Your one stop for wrestling merchandise and information! (link no longer active)
RFWrestling [10:53 PM]: RF Video - Your one stop for wrestling merchandise and information! (link no longer active)
RFWrestling [10:54 PM]: RF Video - Your one stop for wrestling merchandise and information! (link no longer active)
RFWrestling [10:54 PM]: RF Video - Your one stop for wrestling merchandise and information! (link no longer active)
PardayyBrand [10:54 PM]: so do u wrestle them?
RFWrestling [10:54 PM]: RF Video - Your one stop for wrestling merchandise and information! (link no longer active)
RFWrestling [10:54 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [10:54 PM]: RF Video - Your one stop for wrestling merchandise and information! (link no longer active)
RFWrestling [10:54 PM]: the blond is sunny from wwe
PardayyBrand [10:54 PM]: whats ur name on there i dont think i seen u
RFWrestling [10:54 PM]: rob
RFWrestling [10:55 PM]: im not in wwe
RFWrestling [10:55 PM]: in something else
RFWrestling [10:55 PM]: PWG
PardayyBrand [10:55 PM]: oh
RFWrestling [10:55 PM]: anyhows lol
RFWrestling [10:55 PM]: im bored lol
RFWrestling [10:55 PM]: tonight
RFWrestling [10:55 PM]: not now though
PardayyBrand [10:56 PM]: u no lots of peeps
RFWrestling [10:56 PM]: so so
RFWrestling [10:57 PM]: do u
RFWrestling [10:57 PM]: have u ever been with a girl
PardayyBrand [10:57 PM]: 1 time
RFWrestling [10:57 PM]: did u bang her
PardayyBrand [10:58 PM]: no i fingered her but the stink
RFWrestling [10:58 PM]: lolol
RFWrestling [10:59 PM]: why are u on winter break now
PardayyBrand [10:59 PM]: because its winter break duh
RFWrestling [10:59 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [10:59 PM]: u were waiting to use a duh on me to get me back
RFWrestling [10:59 PM]: so we are duh even
PardayyBrand [10:59 PM]: ha ha no
PardayyBrand [11:00 PM]: i go to year round so our breaks are fucked
RFWrestling [11:00 PM]: cool
PardayyBrand [11:00 PM]: liek spring break is in may
RFWrestling [11:00 PM]: ok cool
PardayyBrand [11:01 PM]: so do you butt fuck
PardayyBrand [11:02 PM]: k im sorry i just wanted to know if it hurts
RFWrestling [11:02 PM]: lolol
RFWrestling [11:02 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: its ok
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: i used to fear it
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: and scared to do it
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: only did it 4 times
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: it rocks
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: but it has to be with the right person
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: and all
PardayyBrand [11:03 PM]: it dont hurt?
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: for the first minnute
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: than nothing
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: what are u looking to do
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: and all
PardayyBrand [11:04 PM]: i want more then just getting sucked and runnin i mean i want like to kiss and like see stuff
RFWrestling [11:04 PM]: what is runnin
PardayyBrand [11:04 PM]: like that guy saying get out of my car
RFWrestling [11:05 PM]: yea that is fucked up
RFWrestling [11:05 PM]: well im not a runner
PardayyBrand [11:05 PM]: do you like wrestle or are u just like the coach
RFWrestling [11:05 PM]: sucks you cant get your sister to meet me
RFWrestling [11:05 PM]: at a mall on your way to nyu
RFWrestling [11:05 PM]: or something
RFWrestling [11:05 PM]: then get picked up
PardayyBrand [11:06 PM]: u can come here liek tommrrow cuz they be gone
RFWrestling [11:06 PM]: maybe
RFWrestling [11:06 PM]: i will
PardayyBrand [11:06 PM]: u never says if you like wrestle or r like a coach
RFWrestling [11:07 PM]: no i wrestle and all
PardayyBrand [11:07 PM]: but not like the guys from WWE
RFWrestling [11:07 PM]: bingo
RFWrestling [11:07 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [11:07 PM]: u big
RFWrestling [11:07 PM]: like how tall are u
PardayyBrand [11:07 PM]: so who do u wrestle do i know them?
RFWrestling [11:07 PM]: u wont know them lol
PardayyBrand [11:07 PM]: im like 5-7
RFWrestling [11:08 PM]: k
PardayyBrand [11:08 PM]: u look tall
RFWrestling [11:09 PM]: 5-10
RFWrestling [11:09 PM]: 5-11
PardayyBrand [11:09 PM]: yea ur tall
RFWrestling [11:09 PM]: i would deff kiss u
PardayyBrand [11:10 PM]: that would be hot
RFWrestling [11:10 PM]: cool cool
PardayyBrand [11:11 PM]: u gotta web cam?
RFWrestling [11:12 PM]: no worry
RFWrestling [11:12 PM]: sorry
PardayyBrand [11:12 PM]: i asked 4 one for chirstmas and didn't get it
RFWrestling [11:13 PM]: lol my dog ate mine
RFWrestling [11:13 PM]: well look im going to bed now i think
RFWrestling [11:13 PM]: add me to your buddy list
PardayyBrand [11:13 PM]: no stay
PardayyBrand [11:13 PM]: please
RFWrestling [11:13 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [11:13 PM]: kk
RFWrestling [11:13 PM]: ok ok
PardayyBrand [11:14 PM]: so like can we meet tommrrow and hang
RFWrestling [11:14 PM]: well i work and all
RFWrestling [11:14 PM]: but ill be online during the day
RFWrestling [11:14 PM]: and we can figure something out
PardayyBrand [11:14 PM]: u promise
RFWrestling [11:14 PM]: your sister has to really drive near me
RFWrestling [11:14 PM]: actually to go to Ny
RFWrestling [11:14 PM]: she should drop u off bribe her
RFWrestling [11:14 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [11:15 PM]: that would mean i gotta give her back teh 20 she gave me
PardayyBrand [11:16 PM]: and she won't cuz if i get busted she gets busted then she gets busted for taking my dads car out of newton square and my mom finds our and my dad gets in trouble
RFWrestling [11:18 PM]: true
RFWrestling [11:18 PM]: dont do it lol
PardayyBrand [11:18 PM]: ur so hot
RFWrestling [11:18 PM]: lol thansk man
RFWrestling [11:18 PM]: so are u
RFWrestling [11:18 PM]: for real
RFWrestling [11:19 PM]: whas your name
PardayyBrand [11:19 PM]: Im Brandon
RFWrestling [11:19 PM]: kool
PardayyBrand [11:19 PM]: whats urs
RFWrestling [11:19 PM]: rob
PardayyBrand [11:20 PM]: wait, that link u sent me to said Rob like rob owned the wrestler
RFWrestling [11:20 PM]: yea i do
RFWrestling [11:20 PM]: but i dont know u yet
RFWrestling [11:20 PM]: and really am scared to tell u everything about me
RFWrestling [11:20 PM]: did u see the one group pic
RFWrestling [11:20 PM]: with everyone
RFWrestling [11:20 PM]: notice how im in the middle of the pic
RFWrestling [11:20 PM]: they all work for me
PardayyBrand [11:20 PM]: i no i always think like i am talking to someone here and they are going to be guys from my shchool and are going to tell everyone
RFWrestling [11:20 PM]: lol me too
PardayyBrand [11:21 PM]: yea but if u like own that place then they cannt be dicks cuz your the boss
RFWrestling [11:22 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [11:22 PM]: that is true
PardayyBrand [11:22 PM]: see im smart
RFWrestling [11:22 PM]: olol
RFWrestling [11:22 PM]: me too
RFWrestling [11:23 PM]: wish it was tomm now
PardayyBrand [11:23 PM]: i wish it was friday
RFWrestling [11:23 PM]: then u woul dbe gone lol
PardayyBrand [11:23 PM]: yea but u wont like me and im used to that
RFWrestling [11:24 PM]: why do u say that
PardayyBrand [11:24 PM]: because guys never do they just say shyt
RFWrestling [11:24 PM]: well i will
PardayyBrand [11:25 PM]: how do u own all those guys and r 23
RFWrestling [11:25 PM]: im rich lol
RFWrestling [11:25 PM]: i started my company at 18
PardayyBrand [11:25 PM]: really?
RFWrestling [11:25 PM]: i swear
PardayyBrand [11:25 PM]: u didnt go to college
RFWrestling [11:25 PM]: you have a cute smile
RFWrestling [11:26 PM]: i did
RFWrestling [11:26 PM]: i graduated
PardayyBrand [11:26 PM]: where'd u go
RFWrestling [11:26 PM]: temple for RTF
RFWrestling [11:26 PM]: radio TV and film
PardayyBrand [11:26 PM]: my mom always says I will be like my dad if I dont go to college
RFWrestling [11:27 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [11:27 PM]: i like my dad he is just like not rich
RFWrestling [11:27 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [11:27 PM]: but my dad is really fun and my moms new husband is rich but really a dick
RFWrestling [11:28 PM]: really that sucks
RFWrestling [11:28 PM]: did u fly here
PardayyBrand [11:29 PM]: yeah and my ma said if my dad don't pay next time we cann't come
RFWrestling [11:29 PM]: did your arms get hurt
PardayyBrand [11:29 PM]: ha ha
RFWrestling [11:29 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [11:29 PM]: u sound fun
RFWrestling [11:30 PM]: i am
PardayyBrand [11:30 PM]: did u know u were gay when u were 14
RFWrestling [11:30 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [11:30 PM]: dude i knew when i was maybe
RFWrestling [11:30 PM]: 10-11
PardayyBrand [11:30 PM]: i did to
RFWrestling [11:30 PM]: in school always had crushes
RFWrestling [11:30 PM]: on my friends
PardayyBrand [11:30 PM]: did you do stuff with them?
RFWrestling [11:31 PM]: yeppers
RFWrestling [11:31 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [11:31 PM]: i was str8 at the time
RFWrestling [11:31 PM]: and all
RFWrestling [11:31 PM]: just experimenting
RFWrestling [11:31 PM]: yea
PardayyBrand [11:31 PM]: you weren't freaked to try
RFWrestling [11:31 PM]: noo
RFWrestling [11:31 PM]: i wanted to
PardayyBrand [11:31 PM]: i do to but what if someone tells and then no one likes me
RFWrestling [11:32 PM]: yea well you got to be careful
PardayyBrand [11:32 PM]: i was on homecoming court this year and am really liked
RFWrestling [11:32 PM]: it happend with me and my freinds when we found his dads porn
RFWrestling [11:32 PM]: plus i would hint at my freinds first and feel them out
RFWrestling [11:33 PM]: and then say i was joking
RFWrestling [11:33 PM]: if they were not into it
PardayyBrand [11:33 PM]: so you watched porn and how did you do it
RFWrestling [11:33 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [11:33 PM]: jerked off togehter
PardayyBrand [11:34 PM]: thats it
RFWrestling [11:34 PM]: yea when i was in high scool
RFWrestling [11:34 PM]: we blew each other and stuff
RFWrestling [11:34 PM]: i always got freaked out afterwards
RFWrestling [11:35 PM]: and hated doing it
RFWrestling [11:35 PM]: and would get down on myself
RFWrestling [11:35 PM]: but then i got used to it
PardayyBrand [11:35 PM]: thats why i want to meet a guy here and do stuff so on one from no one can know
RFWrestling [11:35 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [11:35 PM]: i hear u
PardayyBrand [11:36 PM]: but then if i like you and you like me that will suck
PardayyBrand [11:36 PM]: i mean i already really like you lots
PardayyBrand [11:36 PM]: ur so hot
RFWrestling [11:36 PM]: thanks for real your cool also
RFWrestling [11:37 PM]: well i have to get to bed now for real so tomm can come quicker lol
RFWrestling [11:37 PM]: plus im beat
RFWrestling [11:37 PM]: be good on here now that we met lol
PardayyBrand [11:37 PM]: i really like you
RFWrestling [11:38 PM]: i like u also
PardayyBrand [11:38 PM]: i mean, you r not like aking me to jack off or do phone shyt
RFWrestling [11:38 PM]: your a hottie
PardayyBrand [11:38 PM]: old guys always do that
RFWrestling [11:38 PM]: that is corny perverted shit
RFWrestling [11:38 PM]: im normal man
RFWrestling [11:38 PM]: not a freak
PardayyBrand [11:38 PM]: theres lotos of freaks on here
RFWrestling [11:38 PM]: no shit lol
PardayyBrand [11:39 PM]: so u swear u be on line tommrrow
RFWrestling [11:39 PM]: i will but it will be like around noon time
PardayyBrand [11:39 PM]: i can wait if u promise
RFWrestling [11:39 PM]: i promise
RFWrestling [11:40 PM]: well talk on the phone also tomm so u know im not like some old fart
RFWrestling [11:40 PM]: or something
RFWrestling [11:40 PM]: can u hang here
RFWrestling [11:40 PM]: or nah
PardayyBrand [11:40 PM]: you mean ur house?
RFWrestling [11:40 PM]: yea
PardayyBrand [11:40 PM]: yea but i dont got a way to get there
PardayyBrand [11:40 PM]: i don't know where anything is here
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: k
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: well maybe tomm
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: i can get u
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: or something
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: i dont know where that is
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: but my freind is a pro
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: at getting around
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: hes my roomate
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: and is str8 but is mad cool
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: and knows about me
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: he dont care
PardayyBrand [11:41 PM]: ur going to bring a bud?
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: at all
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: noooo
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: if i get u i can get him to drive me
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: if it freaks you out its cool
RFWrestling [11:41 PM]: i dont want u to be all worried
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: and shit
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: im not a serial killer
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [11:42 PM]: but what if we like each other and want to do stuff and he is watching
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: NOOO he wont lol
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: we can come here
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: and chill here
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: i got a huge ass house
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: he wont be with me
PardayyBrand [11:42 PM]: show me on map
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: just for the drive
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: ******* (address removed)
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: in langhorne pa
RFWrestling [11:43 PM]: its like 45 minutes
RFWrestling [11:43 PM]: but the way i drive 30
RFWrestling [11:43 PM]: minutes
PardayyBrand [11:43 PM]: yeah it does look far
RFWrestling [11:43 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [11:43 PM]: i have a idea where u are near
RFWrestling [11:43 PM]: we can work all that out tomm
PardayyBrand [11:43 PM]: its like my house to down town chicago
RFWrestling [11:43 PM]: one thing is dont say your age lol
PardayyBrand [11:43 PM]: plus the train goes through the hood so i am not allowed to use it there
PardayyBrand [11:44 PM]: no i wont and i can act like old
RFWrestling [11:44 PM]: i dont want my roomy thinking im a odd ball
RFWrestling [11:44 PM]: ok cool
RFWrestling [11:44 PM]: he will be like why you with him hes young
PardayyBrand [11:44 PM]: i say to peeps that i go to community college when we go to norhtwestern to party and they believe me
RFWrestling [11:44 PM]: nice
RFWrestling [11:45 PM]: ok well its time to cuddle
RFWrestling [11:45 PM]: with m pillow
RFWrestling [11:45 PM]: my
RFWrestling [11:45 PM]: catch u tomm
PardayyBrand [11:45 PM]: u promise
RFWrestling [11:45 PM]: :-*
RFWrestling [11:45 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [11:45 PM]: if u give me a # ill call u tomm
RFWrestling [11:46 PM]: u give me the time
RFWrestling [11:46 PM]: to call
RFWrestling [11:46 PM]: or just wait till than
RFWrestling [11:46 PM]: your call
RFWrestling [11:46 PM]: when i see u online
RFWrestling [11:46 PM]: u can tell me it
PardayyBrand [11:46 PM]: my dad has calls forwarded to his cell from like 8 to 6 cuz he runs his biz out of the house and only has the one phone and a fax line
PardayyBrand [11:47 PM]: so i can only call out
RFWrestling [11:47 PM]: kk
RFWrestling [11:47 PM]: tomm u can call me
PardayyBrand [11:47 PM]: but i use my calling card becaue my mom freaks when she sees how long i talk and i get grounded
RFWrestling [11:48 PM]: also if u im me
RFWrestling [11:48 PM]: and i dont respind
RFWrestling [11:48 PM]: i always leave aol on
RFWrestling [11:49 PM]: so im not around
PardayyBrand [11:49 PM]: i won't say shyt cuz i had that happen once and my sister saw
RFWrestling [11:49 PM]: lolol
RFWrestling [11:49 PM]: u can say anything
RFWrestling [11:49 PM]: its at my house
RFWrestling [11:49 PM]: n my room
RFWrestling [11:49 PM]: nobody will see but me
RFWrestling [11:50 PM]: ok well its bed time
RFWrestling [11:50 PM]: tty tomm
PardayyBrand [11:50 PM]: laytar and thanks
RFWrestling [11:50 PM]: yeppers
PardayyBrand [11:51 PM]: nite

CHAT TWO - Day Two

PardayyBrand [12:14 PM]: :-)
RFWrestling [12:15 PM]: Hey in car give me 30
PardayyBrand [12:16 PM]: k
RFWrestling [12:17 PM]: :-*
RFWrestling [1:02 PM]: hi
RFWrestling [1:03 PM]: u there
PardayyBrand [1:03 PM]: bk
PardayyBrand [1:03 PM]: sup
RFWrestling [1:03 PM]: whats up
PardayyBrand [1:03 PM]: took a shower bored
RFWrestling [1:04 PM]: cool
RFWrestling [1:04 PM]: what time are you allowed out until
PardayyBrand [1:04 PM]: k i like really really worked this
PardayyBrand [1:05 PM]: see my sister went to ny so i gotta cover for her so i told her i wanted to go hang at this place someone said was close and like peeps my age hang there so i told her when i talk to dad im gonna saw we are all goin to a movie so we can like stay out late and she knows what we said so and i made it more to look like i was trying to cover for her
RFWrestling [1:06 PM]: cool
RFWrestling [1:06 PM]: can u call me real quick
PardayyBrand [1:07 PM]: k
RFWrestling [1:08 PM]: 215 9498708
RFWrestling [1:13 PM]: im paranoid lol
PardayyBrand [1:14 PM]: (map to bust house removed )
RFWrestling [1:16 PM]: k back
RFWrestling [1:16 PM]: is your house like in a development
PardayyBrand [1:16 PM]: kinda like just lots of houses they are like old not like my moms in barrington
RFWrestling [1:17 PM]: u sound way older
RFWrestling [1:17 PM]: you sure oyur not a cop a
RFWrestling [1:17 PM]: ha
PardayyBrand [1:18 PM]: fuck no told u i go to party at northwestern and peeps believe im like in commounity college cuz i can be liek them
PardayyBrand [1:18 PM]: i dont get proofed for smokes
PardayyBrand [1:18 PM]: ha ha
PardayyBrand [1:19 PM]: ?
RFWrestling [1:19 PM]: debating
PardayyBrand [1:20 PM]: what i say?
RFWrestling [1:20 PM]: nothing wrong
PardayyBrand [1:20 PM]: then why ru not talking
RFWrestling [1:20 PM]: oh im jst thinking
RFWrestling [1:21 PM]: nothing is wrong looking at the map
PardayyBrand [1:22 PM]: ru working now?
RFWrestling [1:22 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [1:22 PM]: here now
PardayyBrand [1:23 PM]: im sorry for what ever i did
RFWrestling [1:23 PM]: you didnt do a thing
RFWrestling [1:23 PM]: for real
RFWrestling [1:23 PM]: ou just sound older lol
PardayyBrand [1:23 PM]: then why ru not saying anything
PardayyBrand [1:24 PM]: u said you dont like girly guys so i was trying hard to sound so you would like me
RFWrestling [1:24 PM]: lolol
RFWrestling [1:24 PM]: true
RFWrestling [1:25 PM]: here call me back again
PardayyBrand [1:26 PM]: i dont want to
RFWrestling [1:26 PM]: u mad
PardayyBrand [1:27 PM]: u liked me before i called now u are acting freak
RFWrestling [1:27 PM]: its just im nervous
RFWrestling [1:27 PM]: that is all
RFWrestling [1:27 PM]: and when you called before someone came in here
RFWrestling [1:27 PM]: so i could not even talk
PardayyBrand [1:28 PM]: im kinda nervous to because i was up til like 3 just lukin at your pics
RFWrestling [1:28 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [1:28 PM]: why
PardayyBrand [1:29 PM]: why what?
RFWrestling [1:29 PM]: why are u nervous
PardayyBrand [1:29 PM]: cuz u might be not like who u say u are and not the guy in the pics or the guy i talked to and i like you
RFWrestling [1:30 PM]: oh trust me that is me
RFWrestling [1:31 PM]: im going to take my phone with me in the car
RFWrestling [1:31 PM]: my cell that is
RFWrestling [1:31 PM]: i want to go to the gym
RFWrestling [1:31 PM]: u can call me on that
RFWrestling [1:31 PM]: if you want
PardayyBrand [1:31 PM]: do u still like me?
RFWrestling [1:31 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [1:31 PM]: i do
PardayyBrand [1:31 PM]: but now u dont want to hang out
PardayyBrand [1:31 PM]: its ok im used to it
RFWrestling [1:32 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [1:32 PM]: i never said i dont
RFWrestling [1:32 PM]: i do want to
RFWrestling [1:32 PM]: im going to lift now
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: and ill be back on here
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: i can get you when im done
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: if u want
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: your call
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: or we can talk another day
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: and do it tomm
PardayyBrand [1:33 PM]: what time?
PardayyBrand [1:33 PM]: no my dad gets back tommrrow and then we do shyt with him til we leave
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: hmm i lift for like 60 minute to 90 min
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: kk
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: well let me lift
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: and than
RFWrestling [1:33 PM]: i will im u
RFWrestling [1:34 PM]: and we can go from there
PardayyBrand [1:34 PM]: u swear
RFWrestling [1:34 PM]: i deff wnat to talk to u again though
RFWrestling [1:34 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [1:34 PM]: what kind of music do u like
PardayyBrand [1:34 PM]: so like 3 cuz im gonna go to mcds and eat
RFWrestling [1:34 PM]: k
PardayyBrand [1:34 PM]: u swear
RFWrestling [1:34 PM]: yea
PardayyBrand [1:35 PM]: k
RFWrestling [1:35 PM]: ok ty later
PardayyBrand [1:36 PM]: bye

CHAT THREE - Day Two

RFWrestling [2:56 PM]: still looking i see
PardayyBrand [2:57 PM]: no bored
PardayyBrand [2:57 PM]: just lukin at dicks if they will send
RFWrestling [2:57 PM]: lolol
RFWrestling [2:58 PM]: ok so i f i come and get u where am i coming to
PardayyBrand [2:58 PM]: my dads house
PardayyBrand [2:58 PM]: duh
RFWrestling [2:58 PM]: actual house
PardayyBrand [2:58 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [2:58 PM]: am i knocking at the door lol
RFWrestling [2:58 PM]: ok im leaving now to shower then im leaving ot get u
PardayyBrand [2:59 PM]: its just me
RFWrestling [2:59 PM]: kk
RFWrestling [2:59 PM]: well do u want me to im u when im home
RFWrestling [2:59 PM]: your going to have to give me your addy again
RFWrestling [2:59 PM]: kk
RFWrestling [2:59 PM]: when i get home
PardayyBrand [2:59 PM]: k when u get home
RFWrestling [2:59 PM]: want to call me on my drive
RFWrestling [2:59 PM]: so im not bored nopw
PardayyBrand [2:59 PM]: i don't got lots of time left on my card but will and forgot the 20 to get more
PardayyBrand [3:00 PM]: how long it take u to get home
RFWrestling [3:00 PM]: 10 min
RFWrestling [3:00 PM]: we can talk for like 5 lol
RFWrestling [3:01 PM]: want the #
RFWrestling [3:01 PM]: so i can jet
PardayyBrand [3:01 PM]: k
RFWrestling [3:01 PM]: 267 278 4085
RFWrestling [3:01 PM]: call me
PardayyBrand [3:01 PM]: k
RFWrestling [3:01 PM]: leaving now later

CHAT FOUR - Day Two

RFWrestling [3:15 PM]: hey i cant do it man your age is bad
RFWrestling [3:15 PM]: i would if you were 18
RFWrestling [3:15 PM]: not looking for any stupid trouble and not looking for sex for one night
RFWrestling [3:15 PM]: im not a pervert
RFWrestling [3:15 PM]: or a pedo
RFWrestling [3:16 PM]: your hot if that is you so good luck and shit
PardayyBrand [3:17 PM]: what did i say
RFWrestling [3:17 PM]: that people always get scared
RFWrestling [3:17 PM]: your right
RFWrestling [3:17 PM]: i want to trust me
RFWrestling [3:18 PM]: im not the type that wants to get in trouble
PardayyBrand [3:18 PM]: i don't get it
RFWrestling [3:19 PM]: i legit was driving home and i was like what am i doing
RFWrestling [3:19 PM]: if you were older i would be there
PardayyBrand [3:19 PM]: k im used to it
PardayyBrand [3:20 PM]: like i said old guys always want to see me and get off on the phone but no one ever likes me for real
RFWrestling [3:21 PM]: well no i would
RFWrestling [3:21 PM]: but no sex
RFWrestling [3:21 PM]: im not getting in trouble
PardayyBrand [3:21 PM]: its not fair
RFWrestling [3:21 PM]: would u just want to chill
RFWrestling [3:22 PM]: its totally up to you
PardayyBrand [3:23 PM]: but i wanted to meet u like a dude i can do more not just chill and i know u dont want to because im young and it will be hard not to try stuff
RFWrestling [3:24 PM]: well its up to u
RFWrestling [3:26 PM]: u there
PardayyBrand [3:27 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [3:27 PM]: its your call
PardayyBrand [3:28 PM]: im really bumbed
PardayyBrand [3:29 PM]: no one ever likes me and i get it but it sux
RFWrestling [3:30 PM]: well that is because your age
PardayyBrand [3:30 PM]: it sux
RFWrestling [3:31 PM]: lets just hang out
PardayyBrand [3:31 PM]: i was up til like 3 lookin at your picture thinkin how hot it was going to be to kiss and shyt
PardayyBrand [3:32 PM]: do you know a guy who is like you that mite like me?
RFWrestling [3:33 PM]: like me in what way
PardayyBrand [3:33 PM]: hot nice and not faggy
RFWrestling [3:33 PM]: but your leaving on friday anyhow
PardayyBrand [3:34 PM]: i know but i am here and i can try because no one here no's me so no one will ever no not like home
PardayyBrand [3:35 PM]: you don't get it
RFWrestling [3:35 PM]: i do understand
PardayyBrand [3:40 PM]: so now u wont talk to me 2
RFWrestling [3:40 PM]: i am waiting lol
RFWrestling [3:40 PM]: to hear u say come getm e
RFWrestling [3:40 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [3:40 PM]: i dont get it
RFWrestling [3:41 PM]: i will tell u in perosn
RFWrestling [3:41 PM]: when i know its u
RFWrestling [3:41 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [3:41 PM]: it is me i dont get it
RFWrestling [3:42 PM]: i know
RFWrestling [3:42 PM]: well its your call
RFWrestling [3:42 PM]: when we see each other and we realize its really us
RFWrestling [3:42 PM]: i will be more relaxed
PardayyBrand [3:42 PM]: so u do still like me?
RFWrestling [3:42 PM]: i never didnt
PardayyBrand [3:43 PM]: you know how like when someone says somethign and it is like ur heart got taken out
RFWrestling [3:44 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [3:44 PM]: well relax trust me
PardayyBrand [3:44 PM]: i do or i wouldnt tell u where i was ur not like the guys who want phone sex or ask my dick size i thought u relaly like me but i know u dont have to because i am not from here
RFWrestling [3:45 PM]: ok how is this
RFWrestling [3:45 PM]: ill head home
RFWrestling [3:45 PM]: shower
RFWrestling [3:45 PM]: and im u
PardayyBrand [3:45 PM]: ur not at home?
RFWrestling [3:45 PM]: no i came back here
RFWrestling [3:46 PM]: i can be home in 15 min
PardayyBrand [3:46 PM]: ok you swear
RFWrestling [3:46 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [3:46 PM]: tty in 15
PardayyBrand [3:46 PM]: k

CHAT FIVE - Day Two
RFWrestling [4:07 PM]: yo
PardayyBrand [4:07 PM]: hi
RFWrestling [4:07 PM]: what up
PardayyBrand [4:07 PM]: i know why you got mad
RFWrestling [4:07 PM]: why
RFWrestling [4:07 PM]: i never got mad
PardayyBrand [4:07 PM]: cuz i was in the room again
RFWrestling [4:08 PM]: no that dont bother me
PardayyBrand [4:08 PM]: i won't go in again i promise
RFWrestling [4:08 PM]: no for real its cool
RFWrestling [4:08 PM]: i just never did this bbefore
RFWrestling [4:08 PM]: most people are my age
RFWrestling [4:08 PM]: u know
RFWrestling [4:08 PM]: its just all wierd
RFWrestling [4:08 PM]: like spring break i get
RFWrestling [4:08 PM]: and all
RFWrestling [4:09 PM]: but like hyour sister who is only 17 going to NY for a party on a monday is odd
RFWrestling [4:09 PM]: but its all good
PardayyBrand [4:09 PM]: i dont know if they are going to party they just wanted to go
PardayyBrand [4:09 PM]: i just say party
RFWrestling [4:09 PM]: kk
RFWrestling [4:09 PM]: ok well do u want me to come and get u
RFWrestling [4:10 PM]: i can shower and leave
PardayyBrand [4:10 PM]: we go to your place?
RFWrestling [4:10 PM]: yea
PardayyBrand [4:10 PM]: what should i put on?
RFWrestling [4:11 PM]: cloths lol
PardayyBrand [4:11 PM]: duh
RFWrestling [4:11 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [4:11 PM]: what ever u want
RFWrestling [4:11 PM]: i dont judge peoiple
RFWrestling [4:11 PM]: what they wear
RFWrestling [4:11 PM]: link me again to your addy
PardayyBrand [4:12 PM]: what ru gonna wear?
RFWrestling [4:12 PM]: my cloths
RFWrestling [4:12 PM]: im coming to your house right
PardayyBrand [4:12 PM]: yea
RFWrestling [4:12 PM]: ill knock for u
PardayyBrand [4:12 PM]: k
RFWrestling [4:13 PM]: well i need your addy againb
PardayyBrand [4:13 PM]: o yeah
PardayyBrand [4:13 PM]: ************ (address to bust house removed)
PardayyBrand [4:13 PM]: what time u get here i gotta shower again
RFWrestling [4:13 PM]: well it says 45 min
RFWrestling [4:13 PM]: i dont beleive that
RFWrestling [4:13 PM]: byut ineed to shwoer also
RFWrestling [4:14 PM]: if i had a # on u i would call when im close
RFWrestling [4:14 PM]: i would say 6ish
PardayyBrand [4:14 PM]: it goes to my dads cell til like 6
RFWrestling [4:14 PM]: kk
PardayyBrand [4:14 PM]: that late?
RFWrestling [4:15 PM]: mayube earlier
RFWrestling [4:15 PM]: might be traffic
PardayyBrand [4:16 PM]: i jacked off again lookin at u
PardayyBrand [4:17 PM]: so i will shower
RFWrestling [4:17 PM]: ok well imi going to shower now
RFWrestling [4:17 PM]: ill im u before i leave ok
PardayyBrand [4:17 PM]: k
RFWrestling [4:17 PM]: cool
RFWrestling [4:17 PM]: peace
PardayyBrand [4:17 PM]: bye

CHAT SIX - Day Two
PardayyBrand [4:38 PM]: did u leave?
RFWrestling [4:38 PM]: Ya
PardayyBrand [4:38 PM]: o ur thing doesnt show ur mobil
RFWrestling [4:39 PM]: I am
PardayyBrand [4:39 PM]: k i wont bug you
PardayyBrand [4:40 PM]: im gonna shower
RFWrestling [4:40 PM]: K
PardayyBrand [5:26 PM]: u there
PardayyBrand [5:28 PM]: ?
PardayyBrand [5:33 PM]: Rob?
PardayyBrand [5:39 PM]: ru ok?
PardayyBrand [6:06 PM]: where are you?
PardayyBrand [6:10 PM]: is that car a lease?
PardayyBrand [6:11 PM]: k i'll call u later


Perverted-Justice included transcripts of telephone conversations it said it had with Feinstein based off memory.

CALL ONE

Rob: Hey.
JusticeBot: Hey dude.
Rob: What's up.
JB: Not much, Just hanging, drinking some water, which is sooooo boring.
Rob: Why is that?
JB: Cause it's water, Dude!
Rob: Oh, yeah right. You sound older.
JB: And that's cool, right?
Rob: Well, um, yeah, you know, I'm just a little paranoid. You know, your age.
JB: Paranoid about what?
Rob: I just, you know, don't want people to find out.
JB: Dude, I don't want that either. I'd get the shit kicked out of me.
Rob: By who?
JB: Guys at school.
Rob: Oh, back in Chicago?
JB: Yeah. Man, this kinda feels like an honor.
Rob: Why's that?
JB: cause you're like famous and stuff. And I been hangin around your website. Digging your pics.
Rob: Oh yeah, which ones?
JB: Like that one with you onstage, with the shirt with no sleeves? Totally hot.
Rob: Oh god.
JB: Well, I liked it.
Rob: So what time you gotta be home tonight?
JB: I'm probably good til like, 11:30
Rob: That late huh?
JB: Dude, it's just me here.
Rob: Oh….right, you're sister went to a party.
JB: Yeah
Rob: How'd she get directions?
JB: Man, I don't care.
Rob: That's odd.
JB: What is?
Rob: How'd she get directions to New York?
JB: To the party? Dude, how should I know, that's her fuckin life.
Rob: That's just….odd, driving for a party on a Tuesday. You really do sound older.
JB: Then 14?
Rob: Yeah.
JB: Thanks.
Rob: When's your sister getting back?
JB: Man, I stay out of her life, and I keep her the fuck out of mine.
Rob: Oh, that's cool. Let's go back to online. It's easier
JB: Okay.

CALL TWO

Rob: Hey.
JB: S'up?
Rob: Not much.
JB: Can I ask you something? And I really need you to be straight with me.
Rob: Sure.
JB: Does my voice turn you off?
Rob: Oh, no no, it's just you sound older and I don't want you to be a cop.
JB: Dude, I'd be a lousy fuckin cop.
Rob: It's just, your age.
JB: yeah, man this voice comes in handy.
Rob: How?
JB: Like, if I wanna skip, I can just call the school and say I'm my dad or shit like that.
Rob: Well, I dunno
JB: Alriht, man, I see it like this. I feel like this is the best shot I ever had at doin this stuff. And I been screwed before.
Didn't I tell you about that time with that guy in his car?
Rob: Where was that again?
JB: Chicago.
Rob: Man, I just don't wanna get caught.
JB: How can you get caught? Dude, if you come over, and we do this, and it doesn't work out? Bam, I'm on a plane Friday, and you don't ever gotta worry about me.
Rob: You like it in Chicago?
JB: Eh, it's ok, but people suck!
Rob: What's that?
JB: People SUCK!
Rob: So, you really can't hang out after tomorrow?
JB: Nah, my dad's comin back, and we're gonna have to do family stuff. Which sucks.
Rob: yeah
JB: and not in the good way.
Rob: Ha. Hey can you do me a favor?
JB: you name it.
Rob: Do you have MTV?
JB: Yeah
Rob: Can you turn it on?
JB: Um yeah, why?
Rob: Cause cops wouldn't have MTV at the station. Make sure I can hear it.
JB: Whatever dude.

(at this point I turn on MTV and crank it. The artist I think is Christina Aguilerra)

JB: (shouting) Can you hear that?!!
Rob: Yeah.
JB: (shouting) I'm watching some dude, getting into a car, slow motion, now some blonde bitch is singing!!
Rob: OK, I believe you.
JB: (shouting) Too late man, I'm catchin a groove!!
Rob: OK you can turn it down already.

(and the music goes off)

JB: Man, and that was ALMOST the kinda music I like.
Rob: Oh yeah, what kind of music DO you like?
JB: Alright, I'll tell you, but if I do, I'm not taking any shit for it, a'ight?
Rob: Sure.
JB: I like OLD angry chick rock. Like Alanis Morrisette.
Rob: Oh yeah? What song?
JB: Ironic. Wanna hear me sing it?
Rob: No, that's ok, no command performance necessary.
JB: So we gotta wrap this up soon, cause this cards gonna run out.
Rob: No problem, I tell you what. I need your address again.
JB: You want it now?
Rob: No, send it to me in IM. I'm almost home, then I'm gonna sign on, get your address, put it in my pilot, shower, and then I'll head over.
JB: Cool, talk to you later.

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Philadelphia news affiliate NBC10 and ourselves at Perverted-Justice.com recently came together to set up a "Group Media Bust" in Philadelphia, Pennslyvania. A "Group Media Bust" is an agreement where a media outlet rents a house or apartment, gives our site the information, and we work chatrooms as underage individuals, sending overage individuals to the house to meet the cameras and be exposed for their acts.

At roughly ten PM on February 29th, Perverted-Justice.com contributor "Jay Alternative" messaged the owner of Perverted-Justice.com inquiring for information on wrestling due to an individual messaging him online who represented himself as a wrestler. What followed is a story that is amazing, even to ourselves at Perverted-Justice.com.

Ring of Honor owner Rob Feinstein had messaged "Jay Alternative" in an Philadelphia AOL homosexual chatroom and responded favorably to the idea of meeting a 14 year old boy for immoral purposes. Rather than go into description, we will provide the following link of the chatroom transcript: this link

The conversations span two days, and two phone calls. Both individuals who had contact with Rob Feinstein while under the auspices of being a 14 year old boy named Brandon are not wrestling fans. They know very little about wrestling. And they had no clue who Rob Feinstein was until he came across our volunteers. Rob Feinstein was not targeted by our organization. Instead, he ended up targeting one of our contributors and is now paying for that decision.

Rob Feinstein showed up at our Group Media Bust door to meet NBC Philadelphia reporter Harry Harriston the day after he initiated the conversation with "Brandon". This occured on March 1st. Feinstein ran to his silver Lexus, and peeled off from the scene of the meeting. This was all captured on camera.

Confirmation that the individual is indeed Rob Feinstein was performed by the investigative team at NBC10, who used video analysis and a license plate lookup to make sure that they had the right man. Every safeguard was taken in the two days since Rob Feinstein made his Philadelphia media appearance to know without a doubt that the person involved was Rob Feinstein before this happening was made public by our website.

Perverted-Justice.com is ashamed at Mr. Feinstein's terrible act, and his reckless disregard for his Ring of Honor/RFVideo employees.

However, to make sure the record is clear, Perverted-Justice.com is not anti-wrestling in any form. This situation is not a "black eye" on wrestling, or indicative of the average wrestler or wrestling promoter. Speaking personally as the